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BREAKING — Mpox Clade I detected in North Carolina wastewater
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The Oklahoma State Department of Health confirms a new case of measles
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Americans paid $12billion in new tariff taxes since Trump took office. How many billions in import taxes will Americans be forced to pay per year?

DJ, The US imports most of its pharma products...

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Pakistan reports a new polio case

DJ, Sometimes for practical reasons weakened-but a live- polio-virus-vaccines may be used that can result in polio-symptoms/infection in a limited group. 
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DJ, How the west is promoting war; with lies and propaganda, using trillions of tax payer money for war-industry share holder profits may reflect on "pandemic strategy" (or lack of it...). 

The first/major step in ANY crisis is gathering data, trying to get a picture on events and inform those that need/have a right to know...

In "the west" denial of both pandemics and climate collapse are a new normal. 

The only priority is keeping the west exploiting the rest of the world...a 0,01% very rich claim to "own" the planet. 

Sticking to that insanity is destroying Earth.  Humans are not "self destructive"-the west is destroying the world...

The basic pandemic is insanity. The "west" has to realize giving up western domination-working on an equal basis with the rest of the world-is the better option. Blowing up the globe if "we can not control the globe" may be "unwise and unwelcome"....

DJ-People own their own lives...It is NOT a government job/right to order all people to accept all kinds of medical interventions...For some-higher risk-jobs there may be more rules-a.o. on vaccination. 

But for now it looks like we are giving up on many things that did increase life expectency. Clean water, sewage, basic health care, monitoring for health risks are not "a waste of tax money"...they did improve lives for the people...

Privatizing everything-because everything "of value" has to result in profits is wrong. 
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DJ, Family planning, "planned parenthood" saved a lot of women from having lots of children before they were 25...A limited number of children-at an age where care can be given-with also (medical) support has shown to be a so much better alternative...
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The idea of public health was the outcome of lots of pandemics (cholera, malaria, pox) that may have been a bigger problem in Europe, Asia/19th century then it was in the (early) US. 

So the idea of tax funded public health may be "European import" for the US. This may explain why the US is doing such a bad job in containing/stopping diseases. 

Another factor is the US may produce a lot of goods for a domestic market. Countries that need to export (agriculture) goods face critical customers with a choice where to buy there goods. 

Most Dutch milk, eggs are exported-facing countries with rules on import. In the US food safety rules may be made (more) by food producers-producing mainly for a home market. 

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DJ, my non-expert in anything view; 

The idea that "infectious diseases no longer were a risk" in itself ignored HIV/AIDS, lots of other realities in countries kept poor...

SARS-1, MERS, Mexican Flu, Zica all were warnings-just "ignored" as "unwelcome", inconveniant truths...

The widespread idea was/is -like with flu-CoViD will create "natural immunity" and be self limiting...That idea-for both flu and CoViD-was WRONG !!!

Both flu and CoViD are now spread in hundred(s) of species...sometimes some hosts may spread the virus(es) without (early) symptoms...

Mpox, measles, TB (etc) on top of CoViD is not "just"a coincidence...it is the outcome of decreased immunity in (tens of) billions of hosts...
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Another WRONG idea; "It is mild", "CFR is low", "only old and weak at risk"...in general; "we have to live with it...

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps or https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps (scroll down-add 2019 as pre-pandemic base line) Excess deaths STILL are above the "pre pandemic normal". 

DJ-Statistics can be misused/misleading; By creating the "abnormal as a normal baseline" one may hide other trends...

In climate collapse one could take the year 2000 as a baseline and claim "we are still under the +1,5c temperature increase"...ignoring the baseline has to be 1700-or 1750...if one wants to use any baseline...
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🔥"This provides one of the strongest pieces of evidence for persistent infections being the source of immune-evasive variants, underscoring their impact on the evolutionary trajectory of SARS-CoV-2." ➡️Interesting confirmation! #Preprint
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https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.04.17.648944v1 or https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.04.17.648944v1 ;

Antibody escape drives emergence of diverse spike haplotypes resembling variants of concern in persistent SARS-CoV-2 infections

DJ, We now face-in %- more diseases in more hosts then ever before in history....
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