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Topic - Climate
Posted: 29 Oct 2024 at 11:25pm By Dutch Josh 2
DJ, Climate "change/collapse" is a complex process. Pandemics are complex...Both indicate we need to change the way we live...and "changing the way we live" is very unwelcome if some companies no longer can make profits...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TL0dxTFIyk or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TL0dxTFIyk Jason Box;

short and long term variations in the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets

presentation practice run for delivery at Danish National Center for Climate Research annual symposium. Review article https://doi.org/10.1038/s43017-023-00...

DJ, Good to realize the complexity of Greenland/Antarctic melt...Even with a smaller area Greenland is contributing -now- more on sealevelrise then (West)Antartica...

Gravity-loss due to less (land)ice means sealevelrise on the other side...Antarctic sealevelrise is caused by less ice in/on Greenland...

https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4145.900.html#lastPost or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,4145.900.html#lastPost Arctic #1
Projections. (Table JAXA-Arc1)

Average remaining extent gain (of the last 10 years) would produce a maximum in March 2025 of 13.71 million km2, 0.17 million km2 below the March 2017 record low maximum of 13.88 million km2, which would be 1st lowest in the 47 year satellite record.
 
and https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1759.4800.html#lastPost or https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1759.4800.html#lastPost Antarctic #1;
Projections. (Table JAXA-Ant1)

Average remaining melt (of the last 10 years) would produce a minimum in Feb 2025 of 1.59 million km2, 0.36 million km2 BELOW the 2023 record low minimum of 1.95 million km2 which would be 1st lowest in the satellite record.

DJ, Every 1C= =7% more rain, snow...So "extreme weather" in central US, Spain is related to decrease of ice in the polar regions...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Atlantic_hurricane_season#Season_effects or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Atlantic_hurricane_season#Season_effects 

DJ-"Patty" may be forming-but very unclear...Damage of "Helene" 88 billion US$...over 228 people killed..."Milton" damage over 85 billion, 35 deaths...

The "political picture" is denial of problems is very popular...while both in pandemics and climate collapse (very much related) time is running out...
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"Slow processes" are polar melt, sealevel/temperature rise..."methane mega burbs" may be "explosive"....Not all climate "change" processes are "slow"....A "methane mega burb" will be a seismic event...could also push up global temperatures (and with that sealevel) high speed...

"Rivers in the sky" can coexist with extreme drought...making food and even drinkable water a fast growing problem...

"Humans are a selflimiting planetary disease"

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